Age, Look and Loli

Loli Pantsu Explosion

Loli Pantsu Explosion

Posted this short article I wrote in response to the recent increase of silly moves to ban loli manga and anime on DC.com. I feel that my views should be aired on my blog as well, so, here goes!


Let’s take a closer look at loli and why there’s such a big fuss over it.

What is wrong with loli?

Based on the opinions of many, a loli is defined as someone (mostly girls) who looks like a child / preteen or simply below legal age.

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The Age Factor
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What will you do?

What will you do?

Loli Anime or Manga (with sexual content) may disgust some and even when the age of the character is stated as 18, people still scoff. But wait! Why can’t an 18 year old look like a child? I am sure that there are many cases of people who look far too young for their age in the real world as well.

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Take Konata’s argument for example. She stated in episode 22 of Lucky Star (12 minutes in) that if she was of legal age, but looked short. If a guy her age loved/liked her, would he be considered a lolicon? Therefore, we cannot really judge a loli by appearances. I am sure that in certain cases, this can be considered as discrimination.

Loli Line up?

Loli Line up?

Check out the pic above. All the characters pictured are 17/18.

On average, Asians look far younger that Westerners. Many American teens could in turn pass off as an adult in Singapore, Japan. Many have been known to take advantage of this to buy Alcohol and Cigarettes here.

Some other factors to consider when judging loli:

– actual age
– maturity
– appearance
– sexual knowledge

What about those loli that are stated/depicted to be actual children. Well, read on.

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2D vs. 3D
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If you could only pick one...

If you could only pick one...

Some protest that such material will influence adults to become real-world pedophiles. Where is the proof? There has been an article (which I lost the link to) that says that Japanese sexual culture is much better than Western sexual culture as 2D is popular in Japan. It is highly unlikely that a fan of 2D lolicon would be converted into a 3D pedophile. There is a a huge difference between the two as many Anime/loli fans would point out.

Even if loli Manga and Anime does indeed depict actual children. They are just drawings. These drawings are harmless. Arresting someone for possessing loli manga without them doing or committing any wrong is just, well, unjustified.

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You might as well arrest someone who looks suspicious just because he MIGHT commit a crime.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But if something offends or disgusts you due to your religion or beliefs, just avoid it! You don’t have to rob others of their freedom, nor do you have to spread or convince others of your ideals. Each individual has their own unique fetish.

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(Needless to say, real world Child Pornography is just plain wrong, no matter how you spin it.)

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UPDATE: Followup article written two years later here.

20 Responses to Age, Look and Loli

  1. What you cant ban it!! (I havent visited dc.com b4 though)
    my thoughts may be a bit messed up cause i dont really under stand this
    I mean wts so wrong with juging somone as 13 but there 18
    ok i get it now i just read it through again and i dont know why im not deleting this bit now…..

    [REAL BIT STARTS HERE]

    Ok first wts wrong with having a 18 year old girl look like a 13 year old

    I understand that people may be pervs or somthing but these are pics and they cant really hurt anyone like a real pic where they can track u down with (lots of infocause just a pic wont do much )

    But if i was 18 and i was a prev looking at people i would go to a porn site or facebook the only pervs ur gonna get on sites like DC are nerd : ) thats me and old guys like 50 and arent loli mangas and animes just like doujisn ? Just go ahead and ban those why dont you

    and wt if somone like me whos 12 ( yes i know my utube page says 17)
    wnts to look …… im looking at people who look the same age arent I

    In certian countrys at the age of 10 im classed as a adult (its surpuzingly cool) and in the jewish religon 13 is the age of a adult

    and if it real people who are loli dosent that mean im looking at somone older ( damm the person i like is 5 months older…..this is a very bad controdiction)

    But evreyones views should be spread but some views are plain wrong

    No banning loli on DC (i may just go look at some of that …..)

  2. Ubiquitial says:

    They do arrest the ones who look like they’re gonna do something. It’s called the PATRIOT act. lol. really pathetic thing, the PATRIOT act.

  3. Marshmallow says:

    I think that the whole loli banning thing is ridiculous. If they’re going to do that, might as well force 3D lolis to stay inside all the time or something.

    Although for the 17 year old picture, they really should have used a better pic for Konata, she’s shorter than Ink! [Although, how tall is Ink anyway?]

  4. actar says:

    Not too tall I suppose. (^.^)’

  5. Persocom says:

    “Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But if something offends or disgusts you due to your religion or beliefs, just avoid it! You don’t have to rob others of their freedom, nor do you have to spread or convince others of your ideals. Each individual has their own unique fetish.” – nothing could be more true, that’s a quote to live by. Unfortunately in some countries like the US there are such things as arresting people for being suspicious… and they wonder why I’m a hikkikomori *sigh*

  6. acesan says:

    I don’t mind sexualisation of lolis if the real age (fictional age) of the character is actually legal (e.g. Yami-chan 2loveru). However I cross the line on sexualisation of loli characters that are also fictionally underage / pre-pubescent (e.g. FREEing figure of Kyon no Imouto – that figure is disgusting to me).

    However underage loli characters just meant to be cute, and not sexualised at all, is perfectly fine to me (e.g. Kyon no Imouto in the actualy series).

    In so far as moving to ban it? Imo if it goes againts my guidelines, I’m marginal on it. It depends on how extreme it is (e.g. tentacle henta with ficitonal pre-pubescent girl/boys is way extreme). Then again no one 3d was hurt to produce it, but it still makes you think that whoever is into that stuff is insane and gives you the impression that that kind of stuff is OK in the 3d world as well, when it obviously isn’t. Just my opinion!

  7. garturo62 says:

    I hate when people think that just because your attracted to loli you will want to rape or do something to a real life person.

  8. i dont know about the rest of you but i like skinny ,smart and blonde ( not to smart)

  9. OMG MIKU WAS IN THE NUDE!MARIA IS SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!!1

  10. PK Atomsk says:

    I like loli. If they ban it (which is probably never gonna happen) I’ll just look at it anyway. *is put on government watchlist*

  11. Halconnen says:

    Silly PK Atomsk: Several countries already banned it succesfully. D:

  12. Hado says:

    Alice Margatroid is a loli, sooooo believable.

  13. strawberrybankai12 says:

    the thing is some lolis don’t even look like lolis and according to my friend the term loli means a female Asian (japenese/chinese) child porn star don’t ask how he found out.

  14. ichihime13 says:

    I find nothing wrong with lolis.They will banned women lolis but not men lolis?Look at it this way Louise and Rin are lolis they are banned in Canada,Austraila,New Zealand,Sweden,Philipines,and Ireland but lolis such as Edward Elric and Toshirou Hitsugaya arent banned anywhere.I guess thats a good thing but does anyone else think this is totally sexist?Lolis are cute but have a temper thats the whole point of them.-Sigh-It really shows how people are taking thing to too seriously these days.

  15. darkwater says:

    how is real world diferenet? your not doing it , someone else is its not your falt they did it. your not responcible , looking at it does not make u guilty of doing it

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  19. Michiru says:

    Lolicon and shotacon themselves are not bad. It’s what they are being used for that make it disgusting. Lolicon is considered to just be big eyed, small bodied,cute, whatever, etc. It crosses the line for me if the girl is prepubescent(she has not begun puberty), verbally or symbolically states her age, and does not know about any sexual act prior to engaging in it. Icons like Pedobear make it more accepted into the anime society because people think it’s funny or whatever; but most people don’t even know how Pedobear was founded. A few years ago on 4chan pedophiles would post a bear onto a providers page and they would be given REAL child porn. From there Pedobear became used as a joke and as a icon for Loli/Shota. Is it really okay to represent something that condones child porn, incest, rape, and/or molestation? Eh doesn’t sit right with me.

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